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John Hardman's avatar

If being "dumb" means getting out of our ego and assuming a "beginner's mind" then OK. We are only dumb if we think otherwise. Most of our wisdom is buried deep within our subconscious and encoded in our DNA from ancestors all the way back to the beginnings of life.

"Me thinks thou doest protest too much." No, Shiv you are not dumb but I do agree it is probably best for others to think so and keep you off a pedestal. One doesn't have to be "smart" to be "wise."

Shiv Sengupta's avatar

It seems to me like the tongue may have missed the cheek on this one for you ;)

John Hardman's avatar

I am probably not the only one, brother… 🙏

Shiv Sengupta's avatar

The picture of the two guys twisting each other’s nipples not enough of a hint then…?

John Hardman's avatar

Sorry, after Trump when absurdity became reality, irony is dead.

Cédric's avatar

"Most of our wisdom is buried deep within our subconscious and encoded in our DNA from ancestors all the way back to the beginnings of life."

That's for instance what a "dumb sentence" looks like. Because, are you really sure about it ? 😉

And by saying that, I'm not pretending that I'm myself immune to those "sentences that look like truths I seem convinced of", I'm as dumb as you or Shiv or anyone else !! 😄🙏

John Hardman's avatar

Hmmm, I seem to remember reading something Carl Jung wrote about “collective unconscious.”

Do you ever have anything constructive (or interesting) to say or simply take potshots at others?

Cédric's avatar

I can assure you that my comment wasn't a potshot. My point is that we don't really know anything, we THINK we know, and btw that's what Shiv tried to convey in his own article.

We elaborate theories on "collective unconscious", on "matter", on "god", on "space", on this, on that, and what not. We think others have the answers to the "big questions", but our theories are just human creations, they are us humans pretending taking hold of "what is", pretending figuring things out. Truth is, we do not have a clue, it's a big damn mystery, all of this, me, you, "being alive", etc. That's why we are "dumb", we THINK we have a clue but we do not...

And this very comment is "dumb". Do not believe a single word. 😉

John Hardman's avatar

Oh, we're wiser than we think. The world does not need any more dumbness or despair. While we may not know the "Truth", we can at least add a glimpse of sense to the chaos. As they say in AA: "It is your best thinking that got you here." Truth is probably out of the scope of any of us, but probably some hope we certainly can muster. To care is not dumb.

Cédric's avatar

I agree with that, let's do our best in our "human lives", on this "human level", on our small scale, but when I zoom out, it's so obvious that I don't have a clue, I don't know why I do what I do, why I think what I think, why I am what I am...

John Hardman's avatar

Agreed, but we have various levels of "knowing" and if you don't have a "clue" then you are probably attempting to "understand" from the wrong vantage point. "Ignorance of the (L)aw is no defense." At some level we can sense a path of "right action." Sometimes we simply play the fool in an attempt to get off the hook. The "fool" is also called the "trickster" and usually there is some sort of hidden manipulation going on. Who are we attempting to "fool" when we play the fool?

Rory Hynes's avatar

From my experience - realizing that I'm essentially a blubbering fool (as is everyone else), is also simply another passing moment of reprieve. It releases this seemingly self imposed or socially conditioned psychological pressure of having to figure out the various facets of life (family, professional, financial, spiritual etc.) as well as the implied illusion that it is ever even possible to eventually succeed. Which lasts all of about several moments until I'm back on the hamster wheel once again - mentally toiling away at strategies to navigate it all. This constant ocilation between these two modes of ignorance and awareness has been peppered throughout my life. However, the insight itself seems to be somewhere latent in the backround, softening the harder edges of my lived experience.