Further to my comment below, it feels like, everything came from a singularity, and everything that seems to be coming up is that same singularity, every thought, word, emotion, choice / no choice, love, hate, all of it valid, all of it uncaused, it's just stuff coming up beyond our control, even the M.E that Shiv mentioned is just another occurrence from that Singularity, even the thought of the singularity is from the singularity, there's nothing not from it. I know it seems like 'oh look he's made a conceptual thing called singularity to take away personal responsibility for things', but even that thought seems to come from it. I'm sure Shiv could articulate this a lot better than I could, but this is the best I could do to explain it.
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As I've said many times (ad nauseum lol), every time I read Shiv's description of his awakening experience, it mirrors the one I seemed to have, and the subsequent falling away of it, and the next few years of desperate seeking and nihilism. I recently read Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the dream", I was reading it whilst working on my night shift. The book had been gradually eroding the 'ME' that Shiv mentions in his article, and then I think it was the 3rd chapter where there seemed to be a total shut down of mental functioning, I felt like a pair of eyes floating in space, in pure blackness, the brain felt like it had shut down, I seemed to be staring at the word 'It' on the page, transfixed, in some kind of catatonic trance, I could not read any further. It felt like maybe 10 minutes in this state, then a colleague opened the door and I was shaken back to 'reality'. Since that occurrence, my sense of personal volition seems to have vanished, I feel like there's something behind the scenes controlling everything I do, whatever happens or whatever the body decides to do, there seems to be no ownership of it. I can't describe it as eloquently as Shiv can, but I feel a tremendous relaxation about everything. I don't know how long it'll last, but whatever the outcome, or whatever arises, it just arises.
Important ideas and life-changing experiences beautifully expressed. Many thanks, Shiv, for sharing your story and conceptual frameworks. I'm a new subscriber, so you might have done this previously: my request is that you post on the ways you've discovered to "snap out of the hypnotic trance." Perhaps that happens just by recognizing it? But as Karl's comments suggest, the interpretation we give upon recognizing M.E. in the trance can be just falling deeper into trance of M.E. deception. It can seem like we're only changing channels on the Idiot Box.
I'm feeling grateful Shiv for your writings especially ones like today's. It articulates some of the uneasiness I experience when incessant thinking and it's preoccupations dominates my waking hours. And it is evident in much of how our society operates. Good to be reminded that it not the whole story. Or even the main story perhaps. Thank you.
Further to my comment below, it feels like, everything came from a singularity, and everything that seems to be coming up is that same singularity, every thought, word, emotion, choice / no choice, love, hate, all of it valid, all of it uncaused, it's just stuff coming up beyond our control, even the M.E that Shiv mentioned is just another occurrence from that Singularity, even the thought of the singularity is from the singularity, there's nothing not from it. I know it seems like 'oh look he's made a conceptual thing called singularity to take away personal responsibility for things', but even that thought seems to come from it. I'm sure Shiv could articulate this a lot better than I could, but this is the best I could do to explain it.
As I've said many times (ad nauseum lol), every time I read Shiv's description of his awakening experience, it mirrors the one I seemed to have, and the subsequent falling away of it, and the next few years of desperate seeking and nihilism. I recently read Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the dream", I was reading it whilst working on my night shift. The book had been gradually eroding the 'ME' that Shiv mentions in his article, and then I think it was the 3rd chapter where there seemed to be a total shut down of mental functioning, I felt like a pair of eyes floating in space, in pure blackness, the brain felt like it had shut down, I seemed to be staring at the word 'It' on the page, transfixed, in some kind of catatonic trance, I could not read any further. It felt like maybe 10 minutes in this state, then a colleague opened the door and I was shaken back to 'reality'. Since that occurrence, my sense of personal volition seems to have vanished, I feel like there's something behind the scenes controlling everything I do, whatever happens or whatever the body decides to do, there seems to be no ownership of it. I can't describe it as eloquently as Shiv can, but I feel a tremendous relaxation about everything. I don't know how long it'll last, but whatever the outcome, or whatever arises, it just arises.
dear shiv,
thank you for sharing as always.
love that shepherd story! and all the rest!
much love
myq
Important ideas and life-changing experiences beautifully expressed. Many thanks, Shiv, for sharing your story and conceptual frameworks. I'm a new subscriber, so you might have done this previously: my request is that you post on the ways you've discovered to "snap out of the hypnotic trance." Perhaps that happens just by recognizing it? But as Karl's comments suggest, the interpretation we give upon recognizing M.E. in the trance can be just falling deeper into trance of M.E. deception. It can seem like we're only changing channels on the Idiot Box.
Great question, Noel. And one I think I may answer in a future article
What a wonderful ride this is! Thanks for sharing!!
Superrb. Thank you.
I love this Shiv. Thanks.
I'm feeling grateful Shiv for your writings especially ones like today's. It articulates some of the uneasiness I experience when incessant thinking and it's preoccupations dominates my waking hours. And it is evident in much of how our society operates. Good to be reminded that it not the whole story. Or even the main story perhaps. Thank you.