Further to my comment below, it feels like, everything came from a singularity, and everything that seems to be coming up is that same singularity, every thought, word, emotion, choice / no choice, love, hate, all of it valid, all of it uncaused, it's just stuff coming up beyond our control, even the M.E that Shiv mentioned is just another occurrence from that Singularity, even the thought of the singularity is from the singularity, there's nothing not from it. I know it seems like 'oh look he's made a conceptual thing called singularity to take away personal responsibility for things', but even that thought seems to come from it. I'm sure Shiv could articulate this a lot better than I could, but this is the best I could do to explain it.
As I've said many times (ad nauseum lol), every time I read Shiv's description of his awakening experience, it mirrors the one I seemed to have, and the subsequent falling away of it, and the next few years of desperate seeking and nihilism. I recently read Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the dream", I was reading it whilst working on my night shift. The book had been gradually eroding the 'ME' that Shiv mentions in his article, and then I think it was the 3rd chapter where there seemed to be a total shut down of mental functioning, I felt like a pair of eyes floating in space, in pure blackness, the brain felt like it had shut down, I seemed to be staring at the word 'It' on the page, transfixed, in some kind of catatonic trance, I could not read any further. It felt like maybe 10 minutes in this state, then a colleague opened the door and I was shaken back to 'reality'. Since that occurrence, my sense of personal volition seems to have vanished, I feel like there's something behind the scenes controlling everything I do, whatever happens or whatever the body decides to do, there seems to be no ownership of it. I can't describe it as eloquently as Shiv can, but I feel a tremendous relaxation about everything. I don't know how long it'll last, but whatever the outcome, or whatever arises, it just arises.
Important ideas and life-changing experiences beautifully expressed. Many thanks, Shiv, for sharing your story and conceptual frameworks. I'm a new subscriber, so you might have done this previously: my request is that you post on the ways you've discovered to "snap out of the hypnotic trance." Perhaps that happens just by recognizing it? But as Karl's comments suggest, the interpretation we give upon recognizing M.E. in the trance can be just falling deeper into trance of M.E. deception. It can seem like we're only changing channels on the Idiot Box.
I'm feeling grateful Shiv for your writings especially ones like today's. It articulates some of the uneasiness I experience when incessant thinking and it's preoccupations dominates my waking hours. And it is evident in much of how our society operates. Good to be reminded that it not the whole story. Or even the main story perhaps. Thank you.
Love this..Only one or the other can be plugged into that socket at a time - mind or being. And the mind is accustomed to hogging that socket. ...thanks for this delicious read..🙏❤
“I watched this Mind-Entity (M.E.) gradually come back to life and the experience was horrifying. I could feel the pull and magnetism it possessed and felt how powerless I was to its hypnotic trance.”
Perhaps “enlightenment is merely a vacation - “After enlightenment, do the dishes…” We tend to give it too much power and attention. We have many dimensions and it is boring to remain in any one place too long. The ‘now’, the ‘future’, the ‘past’ all have their allures and Kodak moments but they are all places to visit, not to ‘colonize’. “Too spiritual for earthly good.”
I live in a multicultural neighborhood near the University here in San Diego. One of my neighbors was a delightful Japanese family with a powerhouse 4-year old daughter named Shiho. She was learning both Japanese and English simultaneously and would speak to me in a combination of the two languages. Her young, fluid mind can effortlessly shift between the two languages with ease. She would “visit” Japan at home and America at school and while visiting her old man neighbor. Her “attention” effortlessly flows with the cultural Tao of the moment without prejudice or expectations.
The return of the “Mental Entity” does not have to contain the “horror” of addiction and incarceration. Like Shiho, we can learn to effortlessly shift between the ME and I and not cling or become addicted to any one aspect of ourselves. Just because we are fluent in ME, we can, with effort, learn the culture of I. Shino is fearless and confident wherever she is.
Her family has moved back to Japan, but I am sure she will move gracefully back into that culture while recalling her life in this one during the formative years of her life. Perhaps it is the innocence of youth, but for now, she has no expectations and does not cling or suffer. May she retain that grace throughout her life…
P.s I forgot to mention, meeting E T, that’s a definite claim to fame!! I’m glad your persistence paid off. Doesn’t sound like his entourage had read his books lol (I guess they were just protecting the asset)
One's ME mind is not a stand alone unit and only operates this way with other stand alone units that is culture, society beginning the day you were born.
Further to my comment below, it feels like, everything came from a singularity, and everything that seems to be coming up is that same singularity, every thought, word, emotion, choice / no choice, love, hate, all of it valid, all of it uncaused, it's just stuff coming up beyond our control, even the M.E that Shiv mentioned is just another occurrence from that Singularity, even the thought of the singularity is from the singularity, there's nothing not from it. I know it seems like 'oh look he's made a conceptual thing called singularity to take away personal responsibility for things', but even that thought seems to come from it. I'm sure Shiv could articulate this a lot better than I could, but this is the best I could do to explain it.
As I've said many times (ad nauseum lol), every time I read Shiv's description of his awakening experience, it mirrors the one I seemed to have, and the subsequent falling away of it, and the next few years of desperate seeking and nihilism. I recently read Leo Hartong's book "Awakening to the dream", I was reading it whilst working on my night shift. The book had been gradually eroding the 'ME' that Shiv mentions in his article, and then I think it was the 3rd chapter where there seemed to be a total shut down of mental functioning, I felt like a pair of eyes floating in space, in pure blackness, the brain felt like it had shut down, I seemed to be staring at the word 'It' on the page, transfixed, in some kind of catatonic trance, I could not read any further. It felt like maybe 10 minutes in this state, then a colleague opened the door and I was shaken back to 'reality'. Since that occurrence, my sense of personal volition seems to have vanished, I feel like there's something behind the scenes controlling everything I do, whatever happens or whatever the body decides to do, there seems to be no ownership of it. I can't describe it as eloquently as Shiv can, but I feel a tremendous relaxation about everything. I don't know how long it'll last, but whatever the outcome, or whatever arises, it just arises.
dear shiv,
thank you for sharing as always.
love that shepherd story! and all the rest!
much love
myq
Important ideas and life-changing experiences beautifully expressed. Many thanks, Shiv, for sharing your story and conceptual frameworks. I'm a new subscriber, so you might have done this previously: my request is that you post on the ways you've discovered to "snap out of the hypnotic trance." Perhaps that happens just by recognizing it? But as Karl's comments suggest, the interpretation we give upon recognizing M.E. in the trance can be just falling deeper into trance of M.E. deception. It can seem like we're only changing channels on the Idiot Box.
Great question, Noel. And one I think I may answer in a future article
What a wonderful ride this is! Thanks for sharing!!
I'm feeling grateful Shiv for your writings especially ones like today's. It articulates some of the uneasiness I experience when incessant thinking and it's preoccupations dominates my waking hours. And it is evident in much of how our society operates. Good to be reminded that it not the whole story. Or even the main story perhaps. Thank you.
Superrb. Thank you.
I love this Shiv. Thanks.
A beautiful piece of writing.
Love this..Only one or the other can be plugged into that socket at a time - mind or being. And the mind is accustomed to hogging that socket. ...thanks for this delicious read..🙏❤
“I watched this Mind-Entity (M.E.) gradually come back to life and the experience was horrifying. I could feel the pull and magnetism it possessed and felt how powerless I was to its hypnotic trance.”
Perhaps “enlightenment is merely a vacation - “After enlightenment, do the dishes…” We tend to give it too much power and attention. We have many dimensions and it is boring to remain in any one place too long. The ‘now’, the ‘future’, the ‘past’ all have their allures and Kodak moments but they are all places to visit, not to ‘colonize’. “Too spiritual for earthly good.”
I live in a multicultural neighborhood near the University here in San Diego. One of my neighbors was a delightful Japanese family with a powerhouse 4-year old daughter named Shiho. She was learning both Japanese and English simultaneously and would speak to me in a combination of the two languages. Her young, fluid mind can effortlessly shift between the two languages with ease. She would “visit” Japan at home and America at school and while visiting her old man neighbor. Her “attention” effortlessly flows with the cultural Tao of the moment without prejudice or expectations.
The return of the “Mental Entity” does not have to contain the “horror” of addiction and incarceration. Like Shiho, we can learn to effortlessly shift between the ME and I and not cling or become addicted to any one aspect of ourselves. Just because we are fluent in ME, we can, with effort, learn the culture of I. Shino is fearless and confident wherever she is.
Her family has moved back to Japan, but I am sure she will move gracefully back into that culture while recalling her life in this one during the formative years of her life. Perhaps it is the innocence of youth, but for now, she has no expectations and does not cling or suffer. May she retain that grace throughout her life…
Thanks John, that is a really important addition to the 'topic'.
If we could see through our inner child's eyes we could live in both worlds- a lovely proposition!
joe x
P.s I forgot to mention, meeting E T, that’s a definite claim to fame!! I’m glad your persistence paid off. Doesn’t sound like his entourage had read his books lol (I guess they were just protecting the asset)
One's ME mind is not a stand alone unit and only operates this way with other stand alone units that is culture, society beginning the day you were born.